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WRITTEN in APRIL 2004
A Story for the “Lysa Says: Challenge Me” Ficathon
Challenge by SCORCH 
Drunk!Cordy and Drunk!Angelus, Smutty Humor, BtVS Season 2.
Quote: “Oh, wow! Hey, you’re good at that…do it again, see if it feels the same.”  

What are your thoughts about ‘A Night to Remember’?
Kudos and Critiques are Appreciated. 

Posted by NICKLE at ST

QUOTE: Not exactly thinking straight, Cordelia found staying silent an impossible task.

heh. Because she’s so silent and contemplative the rest of the time.

QUOTE: “Triplet Cordelia. Mmm. That could be fun.”

he’s such a guy.

Usually, it’s “salt in the wound” but garlic…..Cordy can be so evil when she sets her mind to it. Great fic, Lysa.

B

Posted by WRITINGPATHWAYS at ST

Heh. I love your Cordelia. And I want a sequel and the missing smut. I’m demanding I know but it’s just how I feel. I want to see how souled Angel deals with this!

Posted by ANGEL’S CORDY at ST

Lysa hun…you SO have to write a sequel which includes BOTH memories of that night…Angel’s AND Cordy’s…

I really missed the smut in this

And who knows…maybe Angel gets over Miss little-likes-to-fight and finds out, that his and his demon’s heart belongs to Cor…no soul losing with her, because she’s his one and only soulmate!!

Posted by ARKADY at ST

This was fun. The banter between Cordy and Angelus was great. I too would like to read the missing scene. You write some of the best smut out there. Besides it’s killing me not knowing how he ended up biting her on the bum.

Posted by MANDERS-21 at AO

I can’t believe you wrote that so fast, and it was so good. Loved seeing the day after, and the invitation she gave him at the end. But I’m with Nairi, I would love a sequel focusing on Angel’s feelings, and of course the omitted action during the night. Great job, Lysa!

Amanda

Posted by SUNSCORCHED at AO

First of all, lemme say LMAO!!!
Lots and lots to quote in this little slice of joy but I’ll stick with my favourite piece so I’m not here all night.

QUOTE: “When that soul comes back and if you can get over the guilt-trip you’ll no doubt be taking,” Cordelia began, “look me up. You’ve already got an invitation, Angelus.”

That last line was absolutely perfect.

As for what Giles may have thought about a naked vampire being in Cordy’s bed is anyone’s guess. Poor little watcher man, his head must be positively swimming with theories!!!

Would love to know what Buffy, and Xander, think of Angelus being naked in Cordelia Chase’s bed. This has so many possibilities for a, dare I say it, sequel.

Thank you for doing this babes, it brought a huge grin to my own inebriated face! Much love and many kisses.

Posted by KIMMERS at AO

I am sure that they both had a night to remember it’s truly brilliant once again Lysa.
But I think that we need a sequel to this one to see what happens when the soul does come back

Posted by IZZYCHASE at ST

I love the banter in the fic! 😉 The rest of your fic was sizzling fantastic too! Sequel, pleasey please?  Iz.

Posted by V120176 at ST

QUOTE:   “Eew, eew, eew! There’s a dead vampire in my bed.”

(LOL)

Sequel, please?

Posted by ANGELIA at ST

As I’m sure you’re used to hearing by now, I loved it Lysa. It’s always so much fun reading your Angelus and Cordy together. Too many great parts to quote so I won’t bother but I love your way with words. Thanks so much for posting. I hope your tummyache has gone away and you’re feeling much better.

QUOTING LYSA:  If there is major protesting, you can stalk me for an upgrade later & I’ll add the missing scene.

We want smut, We want smut, We want smut. Sequel Sequel Sequel Sequel.

Is that enough protesting for you? For someone as gifted as you at writing smut it should be mandatory for all your fics. Smut fiends that we are you had to know we were gonna ask for it.

Quoting writingpathways: Heh. I love your Cordelia. And I want a sequel and the missing smut. I’m demanding I know but it’s just how I feel. I want to see how souled Angel deals with this!

What she said. Sequel Sequel Sequel Sequel
That ending is just begging for a sequel. We must have more. And as much as I love your Cordy/Angelus I love your Cordy/Angel just as much.

Posted by SYDSVAUGHN at AO

Now this was fun! So sexy and fun and purely lovely Angelus. Yumm! Lovely job!

SaraC

Posted by NOBODY’S ANGEL at AO

OMG!!! This was brilliant, as usual Lysa!!! My fav had to be Giles fumbling for the dropped phone! I can just see him no, stuttering and stammering after hearing Cordy and her bluntness!!!

It was hot and sexy and it had my evil vampire, so you KNOW I’m a little partial!!

Fantastic!!

Posted by SOMETIMES TACTLESS at ST

Lysa, this is fantastic. Like everyone else posting, I loved the drunken banter between Cordy and Angelus, and the morning after scene was hilarious. 😀

I think the thing that hooked me the most, however, was the conversation at the end. I would like to see a sequel, where Angel has rid himself of his guilty feelings, gotten over the slayer, and looked Cordy up.

Yes, I can see that I’m going to have to jump on the bandwagon and request a sequel, and I wouldn’t object at all if it was smut filled (I do so miss the smut scenes, which you excel at *LOL*).
Sammie

Posted by MARIE at AO

Lysa, Very very funny.

QUOTE: “Aww, Cord-eeeeee,” whined the vampire as she stomped her foot. “No fair. Just a little nip.”

The thought of Angelus being reduced to an evil whining vamp by Cordy had me in stitches. Could just imagine Giles face when Cordy rang him. Brilliant

Posted by LYSA at ST

RESPONSE TO: We want smut, We want smut, We want smut. Is that enough protesting for you?Sequel Sequel Sequel Sequel.

Hmm. What can I say except that I’m caving in to the demand. Honestly, I should know better by now than to try to omit the smut. I’ve been trying to write a mix of fics of various ratings, but…pfft!…my halo appears to be beyond repair at this point. I’ve already made a start on the sequel, which at this point of the game is entitled: All the Days & Nights to Follow.

Posted by WRITINGPATHWAYS at ST

QUOTING LYSA: Hmm. What can I say except that I’ve caving in to the demand. Honestly, I should know better by now than to try to omit the smut. I’ve been trying to write a mix of fics of various ratings, but…pfft!…my halo appears to be beyond repair at this point. I’ve already made a start on the sequel, which at this point of the game is entitled: All the Days & Nights to Follow.

Yay!!! The wait for it won’t be too long right?

Posted by SPUFFYNCASHIPPERGAL at ST

Lysa, I’m with everyone else, I can’t wait for the sequel! and I hope you also do both POV’s and I hope we get to see how soul boy deals with all of this, and he had better get over miss likes to fight! tee hee! awesome job, loved it!

Posted by GILLY at AO

OMG, Lysa you’re really on a roll, another great fic. Loved the image of a chained, naked A/us in Cordy’s bed, slurp, lick. I’m with the others we need to know what happens next, and the missing scene from this one, ( I know I’m just greedy).

Posted by HELEN at AO

First off I hope you’re feeling better and the tummy ache has all gone. Secondly I fucking loved this (forget stars!! it needs saying). It was just so damn good I have no idea where to start quoting, every line was just a treasure. But this just cracked me up!

QUOTE: Finishing up, she turned her back to her floor-length mirror. Just along the full curve of her right buttock was a visible set of fang-marks. Hazel eyes widened instantly in disbelief and anger. That playful, lying bastard out there had bit her on the ass.

After everything it was being bitten on the ass got her mad lol. Brilliant babes!

Posted by BECJANE at ST

Sorry for the late feedback Lysa – I’ve been a bit immersed in my own writing the last couple of days. Am catching up on everything I’ve missed now. LMAO at this one, there is so much to quote, but I thought this was especially funny:

QUOTE: Chuckling, Angelus called out to her, “Cor-de-li-a! Come out, come out wherever you are.”
“As if!” came an automated response from some distance away. Not exactly thinking straight, Cordelia found staying silent an impossible task.

Cordy just can’t ever keep her mouth shut can she?

QUOTE: “Angleus is here. Now. Naked. What more do you need to know?” Cordelia huffed. “I think I also said to come immediately. Y’know, before he wakes up and eats me.”

Poor Giles and rubbing garlic into the wound – ouch!
Glad you’re planning a sequel – full of smut this time I assume? 😉

Posted by FRAZI at AO

God if I started quoting my post would be longer than your fic hehehe. I’m all for sequel but awwww can’t it be a C/AUS! That was just brilliant! You make Angelus just the right amount of psychotic playful my absolute favorite… No wonder I lurve you Lysa. Wana switch places with my muse for real? LOL!

Posted by JESSICAJAYE at ST

Originally Posted by Angelia: We want smut, We want smut, We want smut. Sequel Sequel Sequel Sequel

Ditto. Can’t say it any better then that. Loved this.

Posted by LUCKYLYN at AO

I loved this. You’ve got to write a sequel.

Posted by RACHELLE at AO

QUOTE: “When that soul comes back and if you can get over the guilt-trip you’ll no doubt be taking,” Cordelia began, “look me up. You’ve already got an invitation, Angelus.”

Ooooo sexy & saucy! I’m off to the sequel now… lalalala!

Posted by NICKLE at AO

If I posted my favorite parts I’d just have to copy the whole story. Yowsa that was funny. Loved calm and collected Cordelia. Loved her own little Sex in the City moment here. Loved hungover Angelus. And the matching bite marks. And tweedy Giles, probably thinking once again, the world is doomed.

You have such a great gift for plot and originality. Love love love this, and more of the love if you’ll follow this up soon. C’mon, ya know ya want to.

B

LYSA’s RESPONSE:  Hi Brenda! Thanks for the FB on A ‘Night to Remember’. The sequel is already up in the serial section with the exception of the epilogue that I’ll write this weekend. 

well, ok, that’s what happens when ya get tied up with real life and have to catch up on stories and miss that there is indeed a sequel but you’re so far behind you don’t know it. yikes. sorry about that…on to read it now, and what a great writer you are…I love your work…

B

Posted by KATRINA at AO

This was just wonderful Lysa. You are so brilliant, I really admire the way you take on any and all challenges and do them so much justice. I loved your Cordy she was perfect and her revenge had me LMAO. So funny and so Cordy. Big Hugs. Kat

Posted by SI CRAZY at ST

Amazing fic, Lysa!!!! You did a great job here!!! I loved this story!!!!!

Posted by SI CRAZY at AO

I know I’m a little late for the reply, but I just read this fic, and have to tell you that it’s amazing!!!!! I loved it!!!!! As always you did a wonderful job, Lysa!!!!

Message From CORDY69 at AO

Hello Lysa, I do not know how to start so first, let me thank you for the quality of the body of your work. I can’t tell you how often your fictions have made me feel better, and in a way help me get out of my closeted love for the C/A ship. I spent hours discussing some of your serial fictions with people in other states, countries… my phone bill can attest of it. Anyway, I am getting lost in stalker mode again so let me get to the point. In one of the other board I often stop by, we created a small Online Book Club. Each member that want it can propose a fiction of their choice, we all read it and then comment on it in more specific ways than we will do with regular notes in the fan-fic area. Well “A Night to Remember” was chosen as the first fic to start the program. I am not sure if everyone commented yet but I assume you may be interested in reading what was said and maybe even participating in the discussion?

Here is the link to the section:
http://www.whedonverseandbeyond.com/forum/…act=SF&s=&f=103

For the actual place where the story and comments are:
http://www.whedonverseandbeyond.com/forum/…p?showtopic=557

I am not sure if you do see the section if you are not registered though, so if you do not see it, please pm me back, I’ll save it and email it to you (I think there are two pages of comments and then it started a new threads elsewhere in the board but I haven’t checked how many messages are there yet).

I hope you are not too upset that your fiction was chosen and that you weren’t contact earlier.

Have a great day

Posted by NINA at Whedonverse and Beyond

Well, being a C/A fan, might as well get my feet wet in a familiar territory.

The Good:

I’m a big fan of Lysa’s work and I enjoyed the banter between Drunk!Cordy and Drunk!Angelus. No one can get under your skin like old school Cordy. In later seasons of Ats, the humor between the stuffy Angel and the catty Cordy was sacrificed to force the two together. This dialogue reminded me of the fun they used to have, even when Angelus was still Angel.

The Bad:

I, too, had a problem with the date rape aspect of their drunken encounter, but, this is Angelus we’re talking about. I’m just glad he didn’t eat her!

The Ugly:

Although I am fan of both Lysa and C/A, I am not too big on the C/Aus relationship. I love Angel in all incarnations, including Liam, however, I’d be too busy avoiding his mindgames (and his fangs) to get that close. Cordy was from Sunnydale, I think she would’ve known better than to allow that to happen.

That said, the story was smoking hot!

Posted by ANGELUS2HOT at Whedonverse and Beyond

I agree with Whedonfan. The story is a pleasure to read even if you (like me) are a B/A shipper.

Wow Nina, you really summed the story up great!

Alcohol is a great inhibitor, it turns the most serious person into someone very reckless. I think that’s why Cordy allowed Angelus that close to her. She wasn’t in a mental state to stop herself. Remember when he was telling her to come out (she was hiding) and instead of keeping quiet she said “As if”?

Posted by PAT at Whedonverse and Beyond

The C’mere and As If was the first thing that let me completely laugh out, well bark. I was rolling on the floor as to how dumb it was to even have the conversation. I wasn’t drinking anything but water but I really had fun reading it.

Again, I do not believe in alcohol to loosen one’ habit. If you can’t do it sober, you shouldn’t do it all. Now if you would have done it no matter what, then…

Posted by ANGELUS2HOT at Whedonverse and Beyond

I think the whole dialogue between Cordy and Angelus ( the yes-no as you point out) is what made the story so interesting. You knew that Cordy should know better then to even think about getting close to Angelus and yet…………

I (and I’m speaking as a devoted B/A fan) thoroughly enjoyed this fanfic. If the rest of the fanfics this lady writes is half as good as this one then…..she just got herself another fan.

Posted by SHADOKA at Whedonverse and Beyond

I liked it…..except for the whole ‘yes-no’ dialogue that White Willow pointed out…it was getting iritating.

Very funny and very good

Posted by WILLOW at Whedonverse and Beyond
Hmmmm. First automatic responses:

Liked:

-Brought up the idea for me, even before they said it, of Cordy as a vampire. Imagine…Cordy as a vamp! Just think of the costumes themselves! Wow! I’d never thought of that before. Don’t really like Cordy at this age, preferred her S3 Angel but…as a vampire? Now I’m wishin it had been Cordy instead of Harmony that got turned! LOL

– Some very, very funny lines…

Bad vampire. Bad, bad vampire.

“Did n—,” Cordelia’s head snapped toward his. “Are you sniffing me?”

“Eew, eew, eew! There’s a dead vampire in my bed.”

– her decision to call Giles when Angelus was in her bed “There is a naked, evil vampire in my bed. Come now,” *giggle*

– the whole “I don’t look fat do I?” bit where Angelus is worried about his looks.

– the discussion, even if it came half way through where they are discussing ‘agreements,’ before anything sexual happens. It was kind of shaky and not as clear as I would have liked it…but it attempts to address what I mention in the dislike section.

Disliked:

– the drug/alcohol in the drink and the using it against her bit at the beginning

– the ‘no,no,no-yes,’ game at the begining…no offense…but this whole power game irritates the hell out of me, especially with the flip side of ‘No means No,’ being forced down our throats. And you know…having been on both sides…it’s a real pain in the a** to have to play this ‘scenario,’ out when you’re not allowed to even acknowledge that your playing a sexual power-game.

I’m sorry. This type of sex/power game which was played out ad nauseum in the show…I tend to react somewhat hostily towards. What can I say? *shrug*I live in a world where it is expected that these games will be acknowledged by both sides and both sides are considered responsible for making sure the other knows when it’s a ‘scene or game,’ and if playing this game…making sure there are ‘safe words,’ used so that there’s no confusion consent wise.

It’s not a scene I personally find very arousing, reading, watcing or playing in real life. Now…if they both admitted to wanting to get it on and wanted to play a ‘No means Yes,’ scene…that would actually arouse me more…but to each their own.

Rating out of 5 smiley faces: 🙂 🙂 🙂

Posted by PAT at Whedonverse and Beyond

QUOTE: Finding her here was a perfect coincidence, though he wasn’t even capable of thinking beyond the fact that she embodied everything he needed at the moment: a bedmate, revenge and dinner

I love that sentence: summarizing Cordy as a bedmate, revenge and dinner, really drew me in that fic.

QUOTE: “You scared me, dumbass.”

“Meant too,” Angelus pointed out. “A demon’s gotta get his kicks somehow.”

Crossly, Cordelia put her hands on her hips. She wasn’t going to take this kind of crap from him or anybody. “Stand still. I’ll give you a kick you won’t forget.”

I love dialogues, mostly because I can’t hear them in my head or write them, so when someone else make me think that the characters could actually say them, I give them a big thumb up. And I could visualize both of them saying the above bit.

I too enjoyed the Bad, bad vampire expression, it brought a smile to my face… Because let’s be honest killer or souled the vamp is still a salty goodness!

QUOTE: “Duh!” Cordelia figured her question had been redundant. Scornfully, she told him off for suggesting she’d actually walk closer, “Bite me! I’m not coming over there.”

“Damn, how’d you guess?” Angelus muttered wondering if he was being obvious. He chuckled as if he hadn’t been thinking about the way the moonlight cast shadows on the line of her throat. “I’ll do something else. C’mere.”

Attempting to think what other possibilities Angelus might come up with, Cordelia’s addled brain couldn’t manage anything that did not involve something really, really bad or really, really good. Just the thought of the latter made her beg for details, “Like what?”

“C’mere and find out. You’ll like it,” Angelus promised thinking he’d certainly like it too.

Now that made me think of all the people that really dream of being bitten by the sexy vamp (yep, you recognize yourself, don’t you?) and I kept wandering, how long it will take to get to him in those fantasies. Cordy gets some extra points here for not running to him.

QUOTE: “Dontcha wanna get back at Harris?”

What I liked here was the fact the author used the conniving way of Angelus to tilt the balance. I like it when we see, how he can use anything to his advantage (wasn’t he great in S4 in the cage and still wreaking havoc in everyone’s life?)

I also had a lot of fun with the whole no biting, nibbling, etc… It is so trivial this way.

QUOTE: Cordelia leapt out of bed, ignoring the twinge of pain as she did so. “Eew, eew, eew! There’s a dead vampire in my bed.”

Reasoning that Angelus couldn’t really be dead dead since he wasn’t a pile of dust. Guess he was no more dead than usual, so Cordelia figured he had to be sleeping.

QUOTE: “What do I do now? Think, Chase! You have a naked manpire in your bed. How do you get out of this one?”

Wasn’t that fun?

QUOTE: “Angleus is here. Now. Naked. What more do you need to know?” Cordelia huffed. “I think I also said to come immediately. Y’know, before he wakes up and eats me.”

The snack issue I thought was really cool, both Angelus and Cordy think of it. It is not per se romanticized as he just want her for her body… In S3 Buffy, he would have used her and killed her if not ebriated I think.

I couldn’t have thought of a better revenge than Cordy’s garlic bite: that was fairly smart from my point of view and obviously efficient.

QUOTE: “When that soul comes back and if you can get over the guilt-trip you’ll no doubt be taking,” Cordelia began, “look me up.”

That guilt-trip piece is excellent, as we know that Angel have a broody take on what his Angelus side usually do. I thought it was a nice conclusion.

I really liked the alcohol thingy cause I don’t drink, never had and from what I was seeing, it really makes you dumb at times, but here it was just funny not making you trip like on acid, or mean. Of all the stuff I ever read, this is the first time I enjoyed the wittiness of the dialogues between two drunk protagonists.

I see your point White Willow about the yes/no game. It’s one I did ply and enjoyed years ago, and as a first introduction between the two characters I think it makes sense. Just because Cordy might be like a lot of other teenagers, thinking that if she was just dropping everything to run in the arms of someone she finds sexy (but is dangerous) is not in character and also is a bit trampy maybe?

Well, I’m ready for bed now. Will come back later friends.

Posted by HELEN at Whedonverse and Beyond

:clapping: I really enjoyed it! Thought the humour was just perfect as to how Angelus and Cordy would bicker!

Found myself grining alot, but still with a “Eew!” at even the thought of Angel/us/Cordy, I really HATE that idea. But as a ‘bedmate and dinner’…maybe…

But so glad Cordy didn’t get eaten Love her really, just not with Angel/us.

Again, poor Buffy, having to ‘see’ the Angelus/Cordy rumpled bed! Evil or not it would upset her to know Angelus ‘had’ Cordy and I am very protective of Buffy even if sometime I want to slap her.

All in all good read, bickering humour great – 7/10 hugs xx

If I could get past the A/C thing I would have given it higher…but I just can’t

Posted by WILLOW at Whedonverse and Beyond

Oh my goddess! I didn’t even think of that!

THUMBS UP! Buffy having to see Angelus and Cordy in bed! *Giggles gleefully*

Posted by ANGELUS2HOT at Whedonverse and Beyond

OMG I loved it!

It’s one of the most amusing fics I’ve ever read. And I’ve read alot of fanfics but nothing like this one. Drunk Angelus is such a pleasure to read (for me Angelus equals pleasure period but I digress) I loved the interaction between Angelus and Cordy. You can just imagine her being that haughty even when drunk and with a drunk, playful Angelus (not to mention gorgeous) who wouldn’t get a little careless or willing to take the risk?

I absolutely adored this part:

Eyebrows arching into a high curve, Cordelia asked curiously, “Whatcha gonna to do when I get there?”

“Whatcha think?” he returned with a playful smile twitching at the corners of his too tempting mouth.

“Duh!” Cordelia figured her question had been redundant. Scornfully, she told him off for suggesting she’d actually walk closer, “Bite me! I’m not coming over there.”

“Damn, how’d you guess?” Angelus muttered wondering if he was being obvious. He chuckled as if he hadn’t been thinking about the way the moonlight cast shadows on the line of her throat. “I’ll do something else. C’mere.”

Attempting to think what other possibilities Angelus might come up with, Cordelia’s addled brain couldn’t manage anything that did not involve something really, really bad or really, really good. Just the thought of the latter made her beg for details, “Like what?”

“C’mere and find out. You’ll like it,” Angelus promised thinking he’d certainly like it too.

I could just picture all this happening and isn’t that what makes a great fanfic? If you can see it really happening (or want to) and it makes you happy reading it (regardless of the ship) That’s a great fanfic, and a great writer.

Posted by KEYZER SOZE at Whedonverse and Beyond

I am so glad you found it as funny as I did. For me it was irrelevant that C/A(us) get to do it or not, it was realy about two characters that are edgy enough to put this confrontation in the right perspective.

The banter was so true to character, I am envious of the author and her writing capabilities.

I think it is a clear picture of what we like in the BTVS world, everyone had such good expressions/bits to share, be it Xander, Willow, Spike, Angelus or Cordy.

After seeing my share of drunk student at work (getting sick, emotionally disturbed, sleepy, etc…) I can’t stop enjoying that fic, even though from a responsability point of view we shouldn’t condone the drinking and clubing idea… 🙂

Posted by WILLOW at Whedonverse and Beyond

Oh…I didn’t mean I didn’t like Cordy being drunk. I think the two of them drunk and interacting was a great and yes, funny idea. I just didn’t like this part…

QUOTE: One of them broke away from the crowd, sending the others a nod and a knowing grin, casually strolling toward Sunnydale High’s head cheerleader. Having slipped a little of the real stuff into her drinks all evening, the brunette appeared primed and ready for a little action and he planned to take full advantage of the situation.

I’m sorry. I know it’s a story and all…but… (off topic) GHB is like a $3 billion dollar industry and it’s use is almost solely from what I understand…a date rape drug, which is put into a girls drink, blah, blah, blah. This is a laughing matter to alot of guys who seem to think that drugging a girl and then ‘taking advantage,’ of her isn’t rape.

Well it is rape and a thousand times worst then the kind of sexual assault that Spike does to Buffy as it is premeditated, planned out rape with no lack of emotional control, blah, blah, blah. So…not a joking matter in my opinion. And yes…do think the trios little ‘drug and date rape,’ scenario was a thousand times worst then the Spike AR, being methodically planned out gang rape…really bothers me that people didn’t freak about that like they did Spike. However…deliberate use of drugs is the gentleman’s form of rape (non of that pesky violence or loss of control), which we all know is related to those ‘beneath us,’ so…guess that makes it more acceptable.

Posted by KEYZER SOZE at Whedonverse and Beyond

Nuh nuh Taz, I just finished all the oreos, no more sweets for you…

Yes, I understand your feeling about date rape but honestly, by now shouldn’t girl pay attention.  I don’t drink alcohol and I never got out by myself, with the already existing boyfriend, always with a group of friends or family (cousins, etc) so I never feared that type of rape. It’s pathetic to think that someone would resort to this to score some but women also need to be prepared for any kind of situations.

Posted by WHEDONFAN at Whedonverse and Beyond

Hey! I need me sugar! Helps calm me down! Chocolates are better anyways. Chocolates! *bangs on table* Chocolates! LOL

QUOTE: Yes, I understand your feeling about date rape but honestly, by now shouldn’t girl pay attention. I don’t drink alcohol and I never got out by myself, with the already existing boyfriend, always with a group of friends or family (cousins, etc) so I never feared that type of rape. It’s pathetic to think that someone would resort to this to score some but women also need to be prepared for any kind of situations. I started a new thread re: this discussion in the Buffy section so we wouldn’t mess up the story discussion.

Re: Story

In my country, ‘manslaughter,’ which is murder that happens due to the situation being heated and someone ‘losing it,’ losing control, impulsive, emotional, etc. behavior is considered less serious then ‘first degree murder,’ which is methodical, planned out, etc. When it comes to rape, for some reason, such as the quote above…it’s not percieved as bad/or worst then Spike’s A/R for example. I think it’s actually alot worst.

So if I was the ‘editor,’ I’d ask the author to rewrite that aspect. Make it that she’s getting guys to buy her drinks, or that she’s got a micky of alcohol stolen from parents that she’s pouring into her own drinks or something. I personally wouldn’t be comfortable encouraging the very real/concrete perception by alot of young men out there that adding something to a girls drink is ‘a game,’ or ‘a joke.’

But generally, I liked the story and found it to be quite amusing. Of course, like I said…more interested in the concept of Cordy as vampire then Angelus in comparison to A2H for example but this is to be expected.

Posted by WHEDONFAN at Whedonverse and Beyond

I really appreciate this fiction work for the fun perspective it gives us of those two people.

The sensual undertones are classy and inspiring without being in your face.

It is in character with what we assume of Angelus’ playfulness while letting go of the idea that both those characters are often in control of themselves and their environment during that season.

It is surprising to see how well this pair work well together, I almost wander what could happen if we had Angelus with Willow…

Taz, the point you make about premeditating rape by use of drugs is a very good one. I agree that it should be punished more severly. This work we analyze brings forth excellent issues about clubing, socialising and the weight of alcohol in one’s life. I would be interested to see if the author had any other plan in mind to address the drunkness of all the characters (including the football players) or if it is just part of a challenge that do not necessary care about that particular problem.

All the elements are very well described, move flowlesly from one point to the next, and the dialogues are just so witty!

Overall, excellent read.

Posted by WHEDONFAN at Whedonverse and Beyond

I forgot to add that one of the beauty of the fan-fic is that it is completely inclusive.

You don’t have to deal with Xander, Buffy, etc stress. If you are a X/C shipper or a B/A you can still appreciate it as a standalone piece. There is no bashing of other characters, it is a pleasure.